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Re: OFF-TOPIC: SSH authn over TLS?


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:09 PM Aris Adamantiadis <aris@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Felipe,
>
> In SSH, all authentication schemes are signature-based. Specifically
> user authentication is based on signing the master hash that's derived
> from key exchange (i.e. everything that was shared by peers + shared
> secret). SSH ensures that the authentication is safe because it's
> impossible for either party to replay or precompute that hash. I don't
> think TLS would let you extract or derive secrets based on the session's
> secret.

I'm not sure how you intend to use them, but to enable your reasoning,
you can derive secrets based on the session keys using the rfc5705
exporters. I believe the exporters are supported by most
implementations.

regards,
Nikos


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